Best of LinkedIn: Go-to-Market CW 42/ 43

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We curate most relevant posts about Go-to-Market on LinkedIn and regularly share key takeaways.

This edition offers extensive insights into the evolving landscape of Go-To-Market (GTM) strategies and the emerging role of the GTM Engineer, particularly in the B2B SaaS sector. A central theme is the shift from traditional sales methods to data-driven, automated systems, often leveraging AI and orchestration tools like Clay and n8n to achieve scalable, efficient outbound efforts and pipeline generation. Experts stress the importance of moving beyond generic approaches to focus on signal-based prospecting and unreasonable clarity in problem-solving and AI prompting. Furthermore, there is considerable discussion about the true nature of GTM Engineering, with some arguing it is a distinct, strategic hybrid role—the architect of revenue systems—while others view it as a rebranding of existing RevOps or Sales Ops functions. Finally, multiple contributors highlight the need for cross-functional alignment, market research, and ruthless focus for successful GTM execution, especially as companies scale beyond the initial $10M ARR milestone.

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Show transcript

00:00:00: This episode is provided by Thomas Allgaier and Frennis, based on the most relevant LinkedIn posts about go-to-market in calendar weeks, forty-two and forty-three.

00:00:09: Frennis is a BDB market research company helping enterprises gain the customer competitive and positioning insights needed to drive GTM success.

00:00:18: Welcome to the deep dive.

00:00:20: Today, we're really cutting through the noise, giving you a sharp focus on the GTM trends that were all over LinkedIn these past couple of weeks.

00:00:28: Our mission here is to get past the sort of isolated tips and tricks and really grasp the big shift that's happening.

00:00:35: GTM is becoming old.

00:00:37: System led it's about orchestration now

00:00:39: and that system thinking it just jumps out from all the sources.

00:00:42: We looked at Honestly, if there's one big takeaway, it's this AI driven workflows.

00:00:47: They're not just theory anymore They're actually moving into practice driving revenue.

00:00:51: and this whole shift has basically created a brand new really critical role the GTM engineer the Gtme.

00:00:57: ah

00:00:58: the Gtme Yeah,

00:00:59: that's the person or the function linking up data product and the revenue teams making it all work together like a machine and that Gtme role.

00:01:06: that's literally where the money is now.

00:01:09: It's kind of hard to miss how fast this function is taking shape.

00:01:12: Totally.

00:01:13: Danilo Zorowski shared some data that really shows this huge demand, particularly in Europe.

00:01:19: He looked at salaries across, what, sixteen countries?

00:01:22: Yeah,

00:01:23: something like that.

00:01:23: And found this new BDB sauce roll, the GTME, paying up to ninety-six thousand euros net in Switzerland.

00:01:30: Wow.

00:01:31: A roll that like basically didn't exist eighteen months ago.

00:01:35: And now.

00:01:37: Maybe the most sought after technical GTM job out there.

00:01:40: The market is just screaming for people who can handle that technical execution piece.

00:01:45: Tim Jacobson actually laid out the skills you need.

00:01:47: Okay.

00:01:47: And it really shows you need to be a hybrid.

00:01:49: You start either with serious sales chops or, you know, a solid software engineering background.

00:01:54: So

00:01:54: one or the other.

00:01:55: Right.

00:01:55: Then you layer on advanced web scraping, get really good with orchestration tools.

00:01:58: Clay is the big one mentioned.

00:01:59: Trotida.

00:02:00: And then, crucially, you build a public portfolio.

00:02:02: Maybe offer some free bills just to get those testimonials.

00:02:05: It's a tactical path, but it leads somewhere pretty strategic.

00:02:08: Okay, but hang on.

00:02:10: Every hot new thing gets pushed back.

00:02:12: Right.

00:02:13: Fitty Benyons had this unpopular opinion.

00:02:16: I

00:02:16: saw that one.

00:02:17: Calling the DTM a bubble.

00:02:19: His take is it's just rev ops or sales ops with a fancier name pushed by influencers.

00:02:25: Right.

00:02:25: The rebrand argument.

00:02:27: Exactly.

00:02:28: He thinks success still comes down to solid strategy and process, not the job title.

00:02:33: Which is a fair point.

00:02:34: You know, titles can be distracting, but I think the distinction people like Patatruj Jalsjelska and Anastasia Nakanekna are making is important here.

00:02:41: It clarifies things.

00:02:42: It's about the type of judgment needed.

00:02:44: So the growth marketer.

00:02:46: They optimize the strategy.

00:02:47: They figure out, OK, what campaign works best.

00:02:49: Got it.

00:02:50: The GTME, though, optimizes the machinery, the technical infrastructure underneath it all.

00:02:55: They make sure the data flows, the automation runs reliably, and the strategy can actually scale.

00:03:00: So the marketer points the way.

00:03:01: And the GTME builds the superhighway to get there fast.

00:03:04: That's

00:03:04: a great way to put it.

00:03:05: Diana Marcela Gonzalez used this analogy.

00:03:07: that really stuck with me.

00:03:08: RevOps keeps the trains running on time stability, clean data, reporting.

00:03:13: Keeping the lights on.

00:03:14: Exactly.

00:03:15: GTM engineers, they're building new railroads, driving innovation, looking forward.

00:03:18: It's fundamentally about building what's next.

00:03:20: Okay,

00:03:21: building what's next.

00:03:22: Let's unpack that system-led approach because, yeah, building railroads sounds like AI and automation territory.

00:03:28: Definitely.

00:03:29: Jody Geiger pointed out, The future isn't just using AI, it's architecting intelligence.

00:03:34: Building systems that learn and adapt.

00:03:36: But the practical question is, how far are we really?

00:03:41: Are teams actually getting revenue results from this stuff now?

00:03:45: The consensus seems to be, we're still pretty early.

00:03:48: Sam Jacobs mentioned AI reshaping GTM in four phases.

00:03:52: Most companies haven't really even finished phase one.

00:03:54: Phase one, wow.

00:03:56: And Kyle Norton, he reported lots of leaders are just stuck in what he called pilot purgatory.

00:04:01: Pilot purgatory?

00:04:03: Ouch, that sounds expensive.

00:04:04: What does that actually look

00:04:05: like?

00:04:05: It's where you prove a concept works, you know, maybe automating one little step, but then the project just stalls.

00:04:10: Because the team can't actually bridge that gap to full implementation.

00:04:14: Maybe the infrastructure isn't ready, or maybe the quality of the data you're feeding it just isn't good enough to keep it running reliably in the real world.

00:04:22: But some people are getting out of purgatory, right?

00:04:23: There must be practical wins happening.

00:04:25: Oh, for

00:04:25: sure.

00:04:26: Divya Prasad Pende shared a full seven step GTM workflow, fully automated lead gen, filling the pipeline.

00:04:32: Nice.

00:04:33: And Anacapa showed five like really simple GTM automations that scale outbound using smart triggers, AI agents, getting rid of all that manual contact enrichment pain.

00:04:44: Okay, so what's the key to making those work?

00:04:47: How do you avoid purgatory?

00:04:48: It

00:04:48: seems to come down to being hyper specific.

00:04:51: Jacob Didle really hammered this point.

00:04:53: Generic input.

00:04:54: You get generic output.

00:04:56: It's that simple.

00:04:56: Garbage in, garbage out.

00:04:58: Still true.

00:04:58: Totally.

00:04:59: He pushes this idea of unreasonable clarity.

00:05:02: To get there, you have to break the task down into tiny atomic pieces, decompose the problem, and this is key.

00:05:09: Identify your load bearing assumptions before you deploy anything.

00:05:13: Load bearing assumptions.

00:05:14: Okay, break that down.

00:05:16: Sounds like engineering talk, but why is it critical for GTM?

00:05:20: It's about the core beliefs your whole system is built on.

00:05:23: Let's say you assume your buyer only cares about price.

00:05:25: You build your AI prompts, your sequences, everything around that.

00:05:29: But what if they actually prioritize, say, speed of implementation?

00:05:33: Your whole system is now based on a faulty premise.

00:05:36: It's gonna fail.

00:05:37: You have to define and test those fundamental beliefs before you bake them into your automation.

00:05:42: That clarity point really showed up in the numbers, didn't it?

00:05:45: Jenny Vransic tested what, over two hundred AI prompts for outbound?

00:05:48: Yeah,

00:05:48: over two hundred.

00:05:49: And found only about thirty actually worked well.

00:05:51: It's

00:05:51: like a fifteen percent success rate.

00:05:53: Meaning eighty-five percent were just noise.

00:05:57: Wasted effort.

00:05:57: Pretty much.

00:05:58: It just shows complexity for its own sake, doesn't get you anywhere.

00:06:01: Surgical precision is what wins.

00:06:03: And that precision needs a clear structure in your data stack too.

00:06:06: Absolutely.

00:06:07: Bill Stathopoulos gave a great reminder.

00:06:09: The eighty twenty rule totally applies to your GTM data stack.

00:06:13: Most teams get eighty percent of their real value from just layers one to three.

00:06:17: Okay.

00:06:17: Layers one to three.

00:06:20: For those of us maybe less deep in RevOps terminology.

00:06:23: What does that cover?

00:06:24: That's

00:06:24: your foundational stuff simple contact finders basic enrichment the static data providers like zoom info or Apollo.

00:06:32: You know the core repeatable data.

00:06:33: you need the basics exactly and Bill's main point was Focus on the decisions.

00:06:38: you need that data for not just collecting tools.

00:06:41: Don't get tool sprawl.

00:06:42: if all you need is basic enrichment.

00:06:44: Don't overspend on a complex orchestration engine.

00:06:47: use the right tool for the right job.

00:06:49: match the tool to the goal.

00:06:51: That efficiency angle leads us right into pipeline generation, which seems like another area where GTM engineering is really changing the game, especially for outbound.

00:07:00: It's the natural next step, isn't it?

00:07:02: H. Labess observed that outbound is basically merging with RevOps now.

00:07:06: GTM is becoming data engineering and system design.

00:07:09: And Ilya Azupsev gave a really sharp example.

00:07:11: Five years ago, you needed maybe a five-person lead gen team for high volume outbound.

00:07:15: Right,

00:07:15: the SDR farm model.

00:07:17: Yeah, today.

00:07:19: One GTME armed with AI agents can orchestrate that entire effort.

00:07:23: It's cheaper, faster, and probably more consistent.

00:07:26: Okay,

00:07:27: but let's push on that.

00:07:28: Is that just replacing people with automation, the classic fear?

00:07:32: Where does the human element fit in, especially for complex, high value sales?

00:07:36: It doesn't replace the human, it shifts the human's focus.

00:07:40: The GTME and the AI replace the tedious, repetitive stuff, the data digging, the manual sequencing.

00:07:46: This actually increases the value of the human seller because now they're freed up to focus only on engaging, genuinely qualified, high-intent accounts that the system has surfaced.

00:07:56: It's about focusing human skill where it matters most.

00:07:59: Strategy, relationship, closing.

00:08:02: That makes the shift in prospecting crystal clear then.

00:08:04: It has to be about high intense signals, not just broad firmograph.

00:08:07: Exactly.

00:08:08: Jordy Frenadji put it bluntly.

00:08:09: Stop hammering inboxes just because someone technically fits the ICP.

00:08:13: That's just table stakes now.

00:08:14: So fitting the profile isn't enough.

00:08:16: Not even close.

00:08:17: The winning play now is stacking signals.

00:08:20: Combine internal signals like someone engaging with your content or specific product usage patterns with external signals, funding announcements, new hires and key roles, competitor news.

00:08:30: Looking

00:08:31: for patterns.

00:08:31: of readiness.

00:08:32: Precisely.

00:08:33: That lets you identify maybe thirty to fifty accounts that are actually ready for a relevant conversation.

00:08:39: Instead of blasting five thousand contacts and hoping something sticks, it's focus.

00:08:44: And that focus on signals, it loops right back to foundational strategy, doesn't it?

00:08:49: Dao Wester made the point that the best GTM strategies are often built on just three simple things.

00:08:53: We tend to overcomplicate.

00:08:55: Yeah, his three were nail your ideal customer profile, get your messaging right so it truly resonates, and make sure your and packaging actually converts.

00:09:04: ICP, messaging, pricing.

00:09:06: Get

00:09:06: those three right, he argues, and your offer practically sells itself.

00:09:10: But you can't nail those without really understanding the customer.

00:09:13: Absolutely

00:09:14: not.

00:09:14: Piyush D. Bamare called market research oxygen for GTM, just vital, especially he noted, for global scale-ups trying to figure out, say, the Western buyer beyond just their job title.

00:09:26: Right.

00:09:27: What actually makes them tick?

00:09:28: Exactly.

00:09:29: The research needs to decode the buyer across four dimensions, personal motivations, social influences, functional job to be done, and behavioral patterns.

00:09:38: deep understanding.

00:09:39: That level of detail gets you away from vague targets.

00:09:43: It helps define actionable segments.

00:09:45: Sangram Vajri had a great line summing this up.

00:09:47: Oh yeah.

00:09:48: TAM total addressable market makes for a great slide.

00:09:50: Looks impressive.

00:09:52: But TRM, targeted realistic market, that's what makes for a great strategy.

00:09:56: Ooh,

00:09:56: I like that.

00:09:57: TAM is the dream.

00:09:58: TRM is the plan.

00:09:59: Exactly.

00:10:00: And that distinction is so crucial.

00:10:02: TRM forces you to focus your limited resources, time, money, people on the slice of the market.

00:10:08: you can actually win right now with your current product and capabilities.

00:10:11: Whereas

00:10:11: chasing the whole TAM.

00:10:12: You just burn cash.

00:10:13: You chase prospects who aren't ready or need features you don't have.

00:10:16: Focusing on TRM lets you build that repeatable, efficient motion.

00:10:21: And that focus, that repeatable motion, becomes absolutely critical when you try to scale, because hitting scale often breaks things.

00:10:29: Oh, inevitably.

00:10:30: Jamie Walsh pointed out this common pattern.

00:10:32: SAS companies hit, say, ten million dollar ARR.

00:10:36: They think, great, we found the playbook.

00:10:37: Yeah, we cracked

00:10:38: it.

00:10:38: But that's often the exact point where the original GTM motion starts to buckle.

00:10:42: How does it break?

00:10:43: Well, inbound might plateau.

00:10:46: sales efficiency starts to drop.

00:10:48: The strategy that got you to ten dollars isn't the one that gets you beyond it.

00:10:52: The fix usually involves specializing, splitting inbound and outbound more clearly, maybe by segment, and definitely building tighter, faster feedback loops between product and sales.

00:11:02: Which sounds like a recipe for internal friction.

00:11:04: Can be, for sure.

00:11:06: Alan Gonsonhauser observed that when GTM stumbles at scale, the C-suite often ends up talking past each other.

00:11:11: Also.

00:11:12: Because they're seeing the problem through different lenses.

00:11:15: The CEO might see a high-level strategic failure.

00:11:18: The CMO sees a messaging or positioning problem.

00:11:21: The CRO sees a broken engine pipeline gaps, conversion issues.

00:11:25: They're all describing symptoms of the same core issue.

00:11:28: but using different languages.

00:11:29: Exactly.

00:11:30: The immediate problem is they lack a shared diagnostic language.

00:11:34: If you're arguing about market strategy versus activity metrics, you're not even diagnosing the same illness.

00:11:40: The solution needs shared metrics.

00:11:43: CAC payback, sale cycle velocity, things everyone agrees are the vital signs as the common ground.

00:11:49: Which brings us back to the solution we keep hearing.

00:11:52: Focus and orchestration.

00:11:54: Right.

00:11:54: Coldit Parmar had a really critical reminder.

00:11:57: If you focus only on strategy, but neglect the execution, you're going to fail.

00:12:02: Strategy without systems is just, you know, a nice PowerPoint deck.

00:12:05: Doesn't actually do anything.

00:12:06: And Simon Sharp built on that, saying most alignment problems, they're actually focused problems, meaning GTM leaders need to be ruthless in directing everyone's attention.

00:12:15: What are the three, maybe four, critical things we must solve this quarter?

00:12:19: Then build daily execution rituals around those specific goals.

00:12:23: cut out the noise.

00:12:24: So the ultimate fix is structural.

00:12:26: It's about moving these big challenges out of siloed departments and into shared ownership.

00:12:30: That

00:12:30: seems to be the trend.

00:12:32: Stefan May has confirmed it.

00:12:34: The big move is forming cross-functional teams, really multidisciplinary, to tackle the problems that live between departments.

00:12:41: Like pricing.

00:12:42: Pricing, building an ecosystem, adopting AI effectively.

00:12:46: These things don't belong to just marketing or just sales or just product.

00:12:50: They live in the system.

00:12:51: They require that orchestrated approach.

00:12:53: Exactly.

00:12:54: And Jim Bell tied it all together by emphasizing that GTM orchestration has to put the buyer experience first.

00:13:00: That collaboration, breaking down those internal walls, that's the key to efficient growth, because those walls are usually what cause friction for the buyer.

00:13:08: Okay, so this deep dive has really illuminated a clear direction, hasn't it?

00:13:12: The future of GTM is definitely system-led.

00:13:14: It hinges on that GTME role, connecting the dots between data, product revenue, and shifting away from generic blasting towards really focused signal-driven execution.

00:13:25: If you enjoyed this deep dive, new episodes drop over two weeks.

00:13:28: Also, check out our other editions on account-based marketing, field marketing, channel marketing, MarTech, social selling, and AI in B to B marketing.

00:13:36: And maybe leave you with one final thought to chew on.

00:13:39: Inspired by Anastasia Nakonekna, she proposed a simple test for product value in this AI era.

00:13:45: Remove the AI components.

00:13:47: Does the core product still work?

00:13:49: Does it still deliver value?

00:13:51: The answer to that question, she suggests, will likely define your GTM success moving forward.

00:13:56: It tells you if AI is enhancing a solid foundation or just masking a weak one.

00:14:01: A

00:14:01: really clarifying question forces you to look at the core offering.

00:14:05: Great point to end on.

00:14:06: Thank you for joining us and be sure to subscribe so you don't miss our next deep dive.

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