Best of LinkedIn: Account-based Marketing CW 10/ 11

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00:00:29: Well, with that out of the way.

00:00:30: Welcome to The Deep Dive!

00:00:31: Yes welcome we're uh... We are so glad you were joining us today.

00:00:35: Definitely Today's mission for you listening is extracting those really actionable zero-fluff insights from the top ABM trends we've seen across LinkedIn lately.

00:00:45: Yeah and we're looking to help you upgrade your strategies based on what actually working in the trenches right now.

00:00:49: Right not just theory but real execution.

00:00:52: Okay let's untag this because ya know..we have start with a technology currently rewiring well the entire infrastructure of BW marketing.

00:01:00: Oh, absolutely.

00:01:01: AI

00:01:01: Exactly.

00:01:02: It's totally inescapable right now.

00:01:04: but there is this massive friction point between capability and how teams are actually trying to use them.

00:01:12: There really is.

00:01:13: Moussa Farsi actually had a great observation about this.

00:01:15: Oh,

00:01:15: right Yeah What did he say again?

00:01:17: He basically pointed out that the tooling is moving incredibly fast But our thinking hasn't caught up at all.

00:01:23: Right like people

00:01:24: are just bolting This shiny new AI onto their broken legacy

00:01:28: processes.

00:01:29: yeah It's.

00:01:30: I think The phrase he used was.

00:01:32: They're trying to vibe code their way to revenue.

00:01:35: Yes,

00:01:35: vibe coding which you know does not work

00:01:39: no it doesn't.

00:01:39: I mean It's like strapping a SpaceX rocket engine onto a rusted minivan.

00:01:43: That is a terrifying image right?

00:01:45: You just got to crash way faster as he can handle

00:01:47: exactly and that leads perfectly into this concept of agentic GTM agentic go-to market.

00:01:54: okay yeah Tell me more about that.

00:01:56: Well, Brandon Redlinger actually posted a breakdown of what he calls the new ABM and He And John Russo have been using a combination of Clay & Claude co-work to do this.

00:02:06: Oh clay and Claude?

00:02:07: Okay

00:02:07: Yeah.

00:02:08: So quay does the heavy lifting right.

00:02:10: it enriches The target account pulls in all these buying signals and then dumps That into a simple google doc.

00:02:15: uh-huh and Then Claude Co work reads that doc but It also reads your internal messaging framework.

00:02:22: Oh, wow.

00:02:22: Great!

00:02:23: So it outputs this highly personalized three-touch cadence and keeps every single email under a hundred words.

00:02:32: Under a hundred word?

00:02:34: That's crazy.

00:02:35: efficient

00:02:36: He is And there are no more swivel chairing.

00:02:38: You know reps aren't jumping across five different screens just to write one e-mail anymore.

00:02:42: Right

00:02:42: I mean i love the efficiency but um...I have to ask you a critical question here.

00:02:46: Sure

00:02:46: go for it.

00:02:47: If everyone has these tools Like if everyone had that SpaceX engine Yeah Doesn't it just create an arms race of automated noise?

00:02:55: Are we making a faster spam

00:02:56: machine?".

00:02:57: What's fascinating here is that the real bottleneck isn't actually tooling anymore.

00:03:02: It's trust!

00:03:03: Trust, how do you mean?

00:03:05: So McKeil Turian recently analyzed about twenty-five conversations with marketing leaders and he found that legacy platforms are completely losing their room.

00:03:15: Oh wow Losing the room.

00:03:17: Yeah,

00:03:17: I mean some reps are literally just now figuring out how to connect their emails to Salesforce.

00:03:22: They are completely ignoring these a hundred and twenty thousand dollar intent platforms.

00:03:26: Oh my gosh we really

00:03:28: yes Because they don't trust the black box data.

00:03:31: so marketers or practically becoming data engineering shops to find Signals reps will actually believe wow

00:03:38: And you know Michelle be added to this too right?

00:03:40: Yes she did.

00:03:41: She was saying that AI makes things easier on one hand, like you can do account research in hours now.

00:03:46: But the governance side is a nightmare.

00:03:48: Well totally managing token budgets dealing with role changes massive pipeline pressures it's a lot

00:03:53: It so much.

00:03:54: but um here's where it gets really interesting.

00:03:57: okay because AI kind of removes the excuse for sending generic junk right which means we have to talk about who we are actually targeting.

00:04:04: Right The contact versus account dilemma

00:04:07: Exactly.

00:04:07: And okay, I have to share this example from Huey late because it's just amazing.

00:04:11: all the five hundred dollar debt story.

00:04:13: Yes Please Share.

00:04:14: This is

00:04:14: so good.

00:04:15: So Hugh used a full blown ABM campaign To collect A Five Hundred Dollar Personal Debt From A Friend?

00:04:21: A

00:04:21: Full ABM Campaign for Five Hundred Bucks!

00:04:24: yes He Mapped Out The Entire Buying Committee For This Guy Which In This Case Was The Friends Mom His Girlfriend and his FIFA Video Game Team.

00:04:34: That Is That is honestly brilliant.

00:04:37: Right,

00:04:37: he built custom microsites for each of them.

00:04:40: The one with the mom literally said did you raise a man who doesn't pay his debts?

00:04:44: Oh my gosh brutal.

00:04:45: and He ran LinkedIn ad retargeting on all of him And he closed the five hundred dollar deal in three days.

00:04:51: Yeah I love that it's hilarious but You know the B-to-B lesson there is huge.

00:04:56: like Nick Bennett says accounts don't buy.

00:04:58: people do.

00:04:58: yes accounts Don't Buy

00:05:00: right.

00:05:00: Most ABM programs just wait for this generic rolled up account score and blast a message.

00:05:04: But Bennett shared data showing that IT in security block deals thirty-eight percent of the time.

00:05:09: Wow, thirty eight percent

00:05:11: Yeah even though they only have like ten percent Of the actual influence.

00:05:15: if you just treat buyers Like logos You completely miss That nuance.

00:05:19: you fail.

00:05:21: Daily Robinson said something similar.

00:05:22: He talked about this twelve million pound mega deal.

00:05:25: they won and They want it by focusing on personal drivers.

00:05:29: not, you know account level IP addresses.

00:05:32: Okay But let me play devil's advocate for your list.

00:05:34: Yeah How does a marketer actually operationalize?

00:05:38: This we mean like without getting completely overwhelmed By tracking every single person in a massive account.

00:05:44: Uh, right.

00:05:45: Well Steve Armenti has this great concept called the dual funnel

00:05:47: The Dual Funnel?

00:05:48: Yeah

00:05:49: You basically look at the intersection of account signals and contact signals.

00:05:53: Okay

00:05:53: give me an example of that.

00:05:54: So an account signal would be say Microsoft is hiring but a contact signal Is Sarah visiting your pricing paid three times Got it!

00:06:02: ...the intersection Of those two things.

00:06:04: That's the exact moment to strike.

00:06:05: Oh I see

00:06:06: Andre Zinkovich even says that traditional Account scoring is Basically THE NEW MQL.

00:06:10: It just gives you false confidence.

00:06:12: Wow The new MQL.

00:06:15: Yeah, he says we need to prioritize based on actual relationship evidence and product need not just some arbitrary score.

00:06:22: Okay So what does this all mean?

00:06:24: Because we have the AI tools And we know you need to target specific people.

00:06:28: right but like none of that matters if your fundamental strategy who You're actually trying to sell too is just

00:06:34: wrong.

00:06:35: exactly.

00:06:36: the ICP discipline

00:06:37: Right.

00:06:38: John Oziso made such a brilliant point about this.

00:06:40: He said they'd accompany Having recently raised.

00:06:43: Series A is not a buying signal, it's just a crowded inbox.

00:06:48: That is so true!

00:06:49: Everyone is pitching them... Right So Azizal suggests stacking signals instead.

00:06:54: Stacking signals?

00:06:55: Okay how does that work?

00:06:56: Instead of just series A you look for series A plus.

00:06:59: they're running Google ads Plus.

00:07:01: they have zero organic traffic.

00:07:03: Oh wow

00:07:04: Because that equals a company that is burning cash and desperately needs a content strategy.

00:07:08: That

00:07:08: makes so much sense.

00:07:09: Yeah, it takes a list of two thousand vaguely warm leads down to like forty seven companies that will actually respond To you because your diagnosing real problem

00:07:18: You're not just pitching

00:07:19: exactly.

00:07:20: Georgie funnage have completely backed this up too.

00:07:22: He said GTM teams have defined bespoke custom signals that tied directly to the unique pain they solve

00:07:30: right in.

00:07:31: You know, Hans Boone's added another layer to this.

00:07:33: He said the most underappreciated part of defining an ICP is knowing who not to sell too.

00:07:38: Oh absolutely!

00:07:39: Disqualification is so important.

00:07:41: Yeah

00:07:41: he found that a staggering one-third target account lists include non-ICPs.

00:07:46: One third?

00:07:47: That is a lot wasted budget

00:07:48: It's huge.

00:07:49: And then Sam Minerad pointed out that B to V contact data decays at about thirty percent per year.

00:07:54: Oh man, so if you aren't doing real-time enrichment?

00:07:57: Exactly!

00:07:58: Yeah You were just personalizing campaigns to ghosts.

00:08:00: That is terrifying Right?

00:08:02: Well it really ties into an insight from Amprakash Kroponin.

00:08:06: He noted the difference between a successful ABM team managing just eight accounts and a failing team managing eighty accounts.

00:08:13: Okay, wait.

00:08:13: Eight accounts versus eighty?

00:08:15: Yeah

00:08:15: and the difference isn't the list length it's the operating model.

00:08:19: The failing team used forced clusters which just produces generic marketing plays.

00:08:23: You have to have internal alignment

00:08:25: Which is hard to get

00:08:27: It is.

00:08:27: Anthony Blatner actually said that lap of Alignment Is the number one reason Enterprise ABM fails

00:08:33: Really.

00:08:34: Number One yeah.

00:08:35: like when the CEO the CRO in the CMO all Have completely different mental models Of the ICP it Just falls apart

00:08:42: Man, that's a harsh reality check.

00:08:44: It

00:08:45: is!

00:08:45: But I want to leave you the listener with one final kind of provocative thought based on Suvak Dutta's insight...

00:08:52: Oh yeah?

00:08:52: The quiet evaluation phase.

00:08:54: Exactly If buyers complete eighty-three percent their journey independently

00:08:59: Eighty-three percent.

00:09:00: Right, eighty three percent.

00:09:01: Then maybe the ultimate metric of a modern ABM strategy isn't pipeline velocity or click through rates.

00:09:07: What is it then?

00:09:08: Maybe It's the sheer volume Of accumulated trust you can build with a buying committee before they even realize They need to buy anything.

00:09:14: Oh

00:09:14: I love that.

00:09:15: So The question for your listening Is how much quiet trust is Your brand generating today?

00:09:20: That is such A powerful Question.

00:09:22: To end on How Much Quiet Trust Are You Generating?

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